Monday, June 02, 2008

Annoyances

One thing that really annoys me is when television shows do "comic book episodes." It's usually crime shows that do these kinds of episodes... In the episode, there is almost always a comic book fan who is either a murderer or a murder victim. It's not that that bothers me that much. Or even the fact that they almost always mock comic culture in the process. My beef is that they always get that culture wrong.

Whenever I see a show like that, it betrays the writers' woeful ignorance of comic book fans and the comic culture that we all are a part of. Take for instance a show I saw recently. The characters in the show went to great efforts to refer to the comics as "graphic novels." It was as if they were saying: "Look at us, comic fans! Look how hip we are, down with the lingo you people use!"

But still, they don't seem to have any idea that just because something has words and pictures it's not necessarily a graphic novel. No one outside of comics seems to have any idea what the difference is between a comic book, a trade paperback, and an honest-to-God graphic novel.

And yes, as I said before, there's always the obligatory mocking of comic fans. "Look at the geeks in their costumes! They so silly!" And yes, we often are. But I don't see how my comic book hobby is any different from, say, someone obsessed with football. But if someone gets murdered on a football field rather than a comic convention, the shows rarely see fit to poke fun of that fandom.

I guess we just need to get more comic fans (many of whom are aspiring writers) out there writing television. Get moving, people! Because I want to write prose...

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At 9:57 AM, Blogger SallyP said...

You make a very valid point.

 
At 10:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it makes you feel any better, crime shows seem to get every topic they cover wrong. Asperger's was a hot topic on a couple of these shows a few years ago, and I have to say, I was surprised to learn that I would have no qualms about killing dozens of homeless people as part of a convoluted insurance scam. Thanks for letting me know that about myself, TV.

And I'm completely with you on the football/comic fan thing. Plus, it's not like you saw legions of crazed Spider-Man fan taking to the streets, committing arson and flipping cars because their movie did better at the box office than Star Wars. Oh well.

-Phil

 
At 11:19 AM, Blogger Patrick C said...

I thought the term "Trade Paperbacks" was completely being phased out and replaced with "graphic novel." I couldn't even tell you the last time I heard the term trade paperback.

 
At 3:08 PM, Blogger Scipio said...

That's funny, Patrick; I was about to say the OPPOSITE.

There are very few Graphic Novels, other than Independents. Most things on the shelf are Trades. None of the customers ever say "graphic novel"; that's what visitors say when they're embarrassed about asking for a comic book.

 
At 5:15 PM, Blogger Diamondrock said...

Exactly my point, Scipio. People outside of "comic culture" have this fanciful idea of how we all refer to our hobby. Sometimes I have to sit people down and calmly explain to them that yes, I read *comic books* and I'm not ashamed of that. And no, I *don't* want to you to refer to them as "graphic novels." Because they're *not*...

 
At 1:24 AM, Blogger mattcd42 said...

I don't know there were some interesting points in the Sex in the City episode that had the comic guy. While the ending fit the show, it did use a negative aspect of the comic geek. I thought that was an alright interpretation.

Then how about comic geeks in movies? Did the guy from Coyote Ugly seem like a good representation to you?

I think there have been some good representations, but I'm sure as you pointed out there are plenty of bad ones.

 
At 9:27 AM, Blogger SallyP said...

Asking for Graphic Novels can get you in hot water. I was looking for Lt.Blueberry books and asked a woman in a bookstore if they had graphic novels, and she was horribly offended, thinking that I was looking for porn. Then I had to explain, and she still didn't get it, and I just turned tail and slunk out.

 
At 11:27 PM, Blogger Derek said...

But then what are you supposed to say when you're looking for porn?!

 
At 3:44 AM, Blogger Tom Foss said...

I seem to recall the "Dexter" episode that touched on comics to be pretty good.

But I'm pretty sure that non-comic media outlets are bound by some contract to misrepresent comics in exactly the same ways. For TV, it's everything you mentioned. For newspapers, it's "Biff! Pow! Comics aren't just for kids anymore!"

I really think video games get the brunt of it, though. Not only are they constantly at fault for all the world's ills, but most people who write for TV about video games haven't played one in twenty years. So it's always "points" and "levels" and "high scores" and sound effects from Colecovision.

As far as terminology, here's how I break it down:
Comic books: floppies, single-issues.
Trade paperbacks: collections of single-issue comic books published in book form.
Graphic novels: original work published in the same form as trade paperbacks.

I accept and understand bookstores using "Graphic Novels" as the collective term for GNs and TPBs, especially since the term "Trade paperback" can be used for any paperback book (and often is, in the indicia or other fine print).

I think the tropes they use work better when they're covering the comic conventions rather than the shops and subculture. That's where you get more of the costumes and associated geekery anyway. But yeah, I'd like to see the growing media coverage of cons and the growing introduction of comic material into movies and such to see something of a change in the TV tropes...but I kind of doubt it.

 

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